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New car shopping feels like it should be getting easier, yet the spring market is doing the opposite. From our live remote at the Tailpipes and Tacos Easter edition at Loopy Tortilla in Katy, we break down why U.S. auto sales are sputtering as the season changes and why volatility may be back on the menu.

We connect the dots on the big forces squeezing buyers right now: vehicle affordability, a jump in gasoline prices, soft job growth, and consumer confidence that just is not there. We also talk about how the loss of a federal EV tax credit can ripple through electric vehicle demand, and we debate the kind of leadership decisions that leave enthusiasts shaking their heads, including the controversy around dropping V8 models even as brands try to pivot.

Then we switch gears into pure summer planning with a driver-focused national parks road trip guide. We cover standout roads like Glacier National Park’s Going-to-the-Sun Road, Yosemite’s Tioga Pass, and Rocky Mountain National Park’s Trail Ridge Road, plus practical driving tips for altitude, braking on long descents, and picking the right vehicle whether you are bringing the whole family or just chasing a great stretch of pavement.

We also hit a packed events calendar and close with a hard look at dealership pricing transparency, including an FTC case tied to hidden add-ons and mandatory fees. If you care about car buying, car culture, and smarter road trips, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review so more drivers can find the show.

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Spring Sales Slump And Causes

Don Armstrong

It is the award-winning Edwill Time Car Talk Show today coming to you from the Easter edition of Tailpipes and Tacos The Cruise Inn at the Lupi Tortilla Tex Mex in Katy, Texas. Just ahead, we're going to have uh recalls and uh maybe what the new car is sold for. Well, new car to us. It's off a hemming, so it's probably old. Anyway, we've got all of that coming up, and uh we've got more fun things to talk about as well, including our story of the week. Thanks for being with us today. Uh we're coming to you from the Lupi Trotea in Katy, Texas, along with Mike out of this world, Mars. We always need more Jeb Zekin, our chief engineer, David Ainsley. My name is Don Armstrong. So glad that you could join us today. Mr. Mars, we're gonna do your national parks thing here in just a second, if you want to get ready for that. But in the meantime and in between time, I thought that we would do our story of the week here. And um, it's this U.S. car market sputtering into the spring selling system, a s season, and bracing for more volatility, signaling the potential for a new near repeat of the shocks, ebbs, and flows of 2025. U.S. sales by numerous automakers declined in the first quarter as a confluence of factors, vehicle affordability, huge, surge in gasoline prices, big, lackluster job growth, and waning consumer confidence pushed the market lower. On top of that, the industry didn't have the added tailwind of looming tariffs to motivate price-conscious consumers, as dealerships experienced a year ago. And the loss of a sizable federal tax credit credit toward electric vehicles continues to be a drag on volume as well. First quarter deliveries fell at most of the biggest automakers, GM, Toyota, Ford, Honda, Nissan, but it was the sixth consecutive quarter of growth for Honda Kia and the third straight for Stellantis at Toyota. Lexus posted its first quarterly decline in more than three years. In addition to having the industry's leanest inventory and high churn rates, Toyota is juggling the launch of a redesigned RAV 4. Have you seen it? What? Sales have fallen for two consecutive quarters at GM, but executives say the automaker can weather more headwinds. Yeah. Because Mary Barrow is still making what a bit billion dollars a year.

Jeff Dziekan

Yeah, and they're doing some kind of uh welcome all, welcome everybody at the factories or something, some kind of and and they moved from the Ren Center in Detroit to their own. Yeah, uh there's a thing, and not not to interject on that, that uh it's empty. It's empty. What's empty? The uh Ren Center.

Mike Marrs

The Ren Center?

Jeff Dziekan

Oh yeah, I think there's only a couple of there's a uh what do they have it where you get your passport and things? The uh passport center. Whatever. Anyways, but they've they only have two of those in there. You can get to the hotel, but that's it.

Mike Marrs

Is the Starbucks still there? I don't know. Oh god.

Stellantis Surge And V8 Backlash

Don Armstrong

Some of the biggest first quarter declines occurred at smaller automakers, including those more dependent on import. Sales fell 14% at Mazda, 15% at Mitsubishi, at Subaru, volume dropped for an eighth straight month, down 24% in March, and 15% for the quarter. That's surprising. Uh and the reason I say that is because I just got finished driving as a test car, the all-new, all-electric Subaru, uh Uncharted, which is a new name for them. Are you doing a review this week on that? It's a very nice car that'll be next week. And uh, not that that's gonna bring them out of the doldrums, but you know, you can only carry uh the same cars so long with the same sheet metal, so you put some different paint on it, you can you know jack it up, make it look off-road, but it's still the same. No, not like that. No, we got one foot. We got one foot in the grave here. Lots of body putty. There are other signs that consumers are seeking more value in new car showrooms. Ford, after discontinuing one of its least expensive models, the Escape, hopes to entice shoppers into other utility vehicles, notably the Bronco Sport, which I've always liked. That set a first quarter sales record of 35,000, up five percent. Entry-level trims of the Maverick, Ranger and Bronco Sport rose 8.4% combined, Ford said. And Stellantes. Oh boy. Here we go. Appears to be finding its stride after years of market share losses. Automakers U.S. sales rose 4.1% in the first quarter on gains at Ram Jeep and Dodge, despite the fact that they stopped making the V8 engine. What moron would come into a company, make a bajillion dollars himself, and then oh, we're not gonna make the Challenger and uh the Charger anymore. Yes, they were our top sellers for years and still are, but we're not gonna make those anymore. We're gonna make it all electric. Go tell a hot rotter that he's gonna get into an electric, not. Jeez, talk about shrinking sales. Delanis received a boost from the redesigned Jeep Cherokee and the freshened Grand Wagoneer, which I understand that Sheila's driving. Ram sales jumped 20 percent, marking its first best quarter since 2023. Sales of 15 uh the 1500 pickup surging 27 percent. Company revived its 5.7 liter V8 engine on the 2026 Ram 1500 last year after dropping it from the BS years. Who who would do something like that? Not a car guy. And it's funny, they keep hiring CEOs that aren't car guys. Yeah, why would you do that? Yep. We had a CEO of our uh Mike is gonna get into brain surgery.

Jeff Dziekan

Yep. Well, I can see I could see that. No. We had a CEO of uh company that came from Coca-Cola, he lasted less than a year.

Mike Marrs

Yeah, yeah, but it but that's the thing at the CEO level. They think that they're so high. They don't need to know what we know how to run the business. They need to know how to tell other people, to tell other people, to tell other people, to tell other people how to run the business.

Jeff Dziekan

Look how good he did over there. It doesn't mean you're gonna do good over here.

Mike Marrs

Exactly. They're do-gooders.

Jeff Dziekan

Yeah, there you go. That's all they are is do-gooders.

Don Armstrong

Wannabeers, the wannabees run them out of town. Yeah. Um I I I I don't understand the philosophy of these folks that uh continually hire CEOs that know nothing about the business. I I'm I'm the stupid one. It makes no sense to me. Is it to you? We're the stupid ones because we're not doing it.

Mike Marrs

Well, it's my my experience in the C in that world, it's not about what you know. Guys like us, yeah, I only know of one that ever started that made it top, and that was in Southwestern Bell Telephone Company. Both. Oh. But you know, other than him, all about what school you you went to, who you met, who you know that can get you in it. Yep, exactly. Same thing in politics. Yeah, that's that's pretty much what it amounts to. And that's what I told my grandkids. You want to know how to do something, go to the school that teaches you. You want to know how to move up in the world, go to UT or go to AM, someplace where you can make connections, because that's most important. Yeah.

Don Armstrong

Well, same speaking of things that are important, everybody's kind of looking forward to summer vacation now that we're at Easter and making plans for that. And I know that you've got a special feature on uh national parks and summer road trips.

Mike Marrs

Yeah, there was so much to do. I kind of split it up. So we're gonna take kind of the west side of the country uh this week, but when you start thinking about summer road trips to the national parks, then we're not really close to any of them, so you've got to make some plans.

Don Armstrong

Well, we do have a national forest nearby. We do.

Mike Marrs

Well, you do, but that's not quite where you're gonna find uh from a driving perspective, you're not gonna find a lot of switchbacks or long straightaways to to really get into some elevation changes and things. Enjoy your car. Enjoy the car. So trying to do both of them, these are a few places you might go to. So Glacier National Park, and it's called Going to the Sun Road. Oh, now it's it's got a lot of tight switchbacks, it's got a lot of narrow lanes, uh drop offs, the Glacier National Park. But the glaciers, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you really want to go out driving wise, you go to or go in the early morning when there's not a lot of people out there, the mountain air is a little more crisp, a lot of cooler, it's easier to drive the in a more spirited manner whenever you're doing that. And a couple of cars you might want to look at if you're out there. If you have an opportunity, maybe use something like a Mustang, a Ford Mustang. But of course, if you got the family with you, then you're going to be looking for something, maybe an SUV like the Explorer to uh carry the family with you to go see all the sites and all the uh valleys and the hills and everything that the family's gonna want to see. I knew that. The other one we want to talk about that would give you some uh a little bit of both worlds would be the Tyoga Pass in Yos Yosimite Yosemite, Yosemite. However, you want to do it. I'm trying to cover all the bases. There you go. It's Yosemite to me, National Park. We knew you were bilingual. Now, the thing about this is whenever you're going on this drive, you're gonna run into a lot of sweeping curves. It all gives you a nice steady pace to go through it, but you go up above 9,000 feet. And so your car is going to be running on some thin air in there. So whenever you start coming back down, you're doing going through the curves and along straights, you gotta kind of get into a rhythm, but you really don't want to get too spirited with it because uh your car is not gonna react like it does down at sea level or down even down here below sea level. There you go. Uh something you might want to look at for that. If you got a whole family with you, of course, something like a Jeep Grand Cherokee. You still got plenty of power, you can still feel the road and enjoy that. But if you're just you, maybe your special friend or something, you might try and do the Honda Civic. Get a little more spirited driving going. A little bit more oof. Then uh the other one would be the Trail Ridge Road in the Rocky Mountain National Park. So this is kind of the this is actually the highest continuous paved road in the United States. Wow. So you got long climbs, steep descents. You can center, you can got a lot of wide open views above the tree line, so you can see a lot of place. But here's the problem with this one when you're coming downhill, you got to worry about your brakes. You got to do some brake management because you don't want your brakes to overheat in the steep descent. Um, and then you've got engine cooling you're gonna have to worry about if you're up there in the summer, even though it's up high, the elevation is a little cooler, but the engines really got to work a lot harder when they go through all these sweeping curves and above the tree line, and you're gonna see all the horizon that's like way over there, endlessly away. So uh something you might drive there, maybe if you get a chance, maybe one of the BMW 3 series, uh a Subaru has got some all-wheel drive vehicles that could work really well, or you might try the Miata MX5, which would be what I would think would be really fun if you don't have the kids with you. Of course. So you get to kind of look at what you're in. So when you go to these national parks and you start thinking about them as destinations, obviously you know you may want to take the kids, you got a lot of scenics uh scenes to drive through for the elevation, the surface, surface scenery that you can see and stop and make some changes and uh get the family involved, or you can enjoy the drive a little bit more depending on what you're driving. So do some planning uh to go to the national parks for this summer.

Break And Cruise In Details

Don Armstrong

There you go. Thank you, Mike. All right. Um let me let me look at the time. I have uh thinking then that it's maybe time to take a break. Okay. Are you okay with that?

Jeff Dziekan

I'm fine.

Don Armstrong

Anybody else is asking to take a poll? Take a poll. You know, there's more people here than I thought.

Jeff Dziekan

They're rolling in. Yeah, they are still rolling. Not bad, a little overcast. It's a little humid, humid. But it's it's cool.

Mike Marrs

It's nice and cool without being cold. It's hot like us. Hot.

Don Armstrong

The humidity is 150%. But um, you know, if you're good with that, I'm good with it. Uh is my having a bad hair day.

Jeff Dziekan

I truly am.

Don Armstrong

Are you? Yeah. Both of them are like going crazy. Coming up. Jeff has the cruise in and events calendars, and I'll have the stories making autumn's headlines this week, hopefully. So we invite you to stay with us. By the way, we're coming to you today from Tailpipes and Tacos, the cruise in at the Lupito, Texas, near the intersection of I-10, the CD Freeway, and 99, the Grand Park. Far come on by. We'll be here till eleven o'clock this morning, and the restaurant opens at 11, so you can go in and get yourself some really fine.

Jeff Dziekan

And they're good. I had one.

Easter Bunny And Show Trophy

Don Armstrong

All right. We've got all that coming up. We hope you'll stay with us here on the Inwheel Time Car Talk Show. We continue after this quick break. The Easter Bunny's coming. To the tailpipes and tacos cruise in at the Loopy Tortilla Tex Max in Katie, April 4th, 8 to 11 a.m. And you're invited to. Bring the kids and grandkids. It's a cruise-in like you've never attended before. With the donation to Shirley's Kids, you'll get a free Loopy Tortilla breakfast taco. There'll be coffee and adult beverages, plus chili pepper trophies for the best hot rod, best modern classic, and best classic. There's no entry fee and no registration. Just bring your ride and the kids. Best bunnies aren't allowed, but the Easter bunny will be there, and he'll be full of joy to help make this tailpipes and tacos a very special one. Photo opportunities abound. The NRL Time Car Talk Show will be streaming around the globe, and you can be selected to tell your car story to a global audience. It's the Tail Pipes and Tacos Cruise and Easter edition, Saturday, April 4th, 8 to 11 a.m. at the Loopy Tortilla Tex Max in Katy, located on 99 the Grand Parkway, just south of I10, the Katy Freeway in Katy. Make plans now. Loopy Tortilla is pretty good. Apple or Android in Wheel Time podcasts can be found everywhere, on the stream and through downloads. Whether you're on the road or at home and Jones in for a different kind of car talk show, give In Wheel Time a try. Honest new car reviews, fun, informative interviews with real car people, weekly automotive news, features like Jeff's car culture and Mike's driving destinations, all on In Wheel Time. Check us out on Sirius XM Podcasts, iHeartRadio, or while you're shopping on Amazon through Amazon Music. Mm-hmm. InWheel Time.com has a list, and we know you love lists. Welcome back to the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show. We're coming to you live today from the Lupitourtia Tex Mex in Katy for tailpipes and tacos. And we'll be here till 11. Hope you'll stop by. I've got a nice turnout here for the cruise in, all sorts of cars, lots of fun stuff going on. The Easter Bunny is here. We've got a display of all the fine pedal cars. Did you see the pedal cars?

Jeff Dziekan

I did. I did. They're getting loaded in. Sheila's taking them out of some of them out of her car. And look what you have in front of her in front of you. So this is the new Wally. Yeah, Stan Talk well, the 50th anniversary Wally.

Don Armstrong

That's a special edition for that year. That's what I say. It's the new Wally. Yeah, 75 years. 75 years, I apologize. The Wally Park. So it's kind of a silver kind of uh color. Yeah. It's not silver. It's not it's not gold like the other one. Right. And this is a 2026 class winner. No problem raceway Belrose, Louisiana. And it's a diamond that he's standing on. Yes, he's standing on. Wally Park. So um it's very nice. I like it. It's heavy too.

Jeff Dziekan

Would you hold it? Feel how heavy that is. Oh, yeah, that's heavy. I want to thank the Academy and everyone that's not in the Academy. Okay. Appreciate the award. Very nice. So we'll put that right there.

Texas Cruise In Event Picks

Don Armstrong

This is the only time that we get to see these kinds of things. So we have to bring the show out here for it all to be displayed. All right. Um be sure and join us for our regular live show every Saturday from 10 to noon on Facebook, YouTube, and in real time.com. Podcasts everywhere. Thanks for joining us today. Time now for Jeff's cruise in and events. Oh yeah, let me get that. I knew I had something to do here today.

Jeff Dziekan

That's all right. There you go. Okay, well, next Saturday, uh which we always do a week ahead of time. This one, I'm sure a shout out to our folks down south from us. Uh the Corpus Christi Car Show is going April 11th, starts at 10 a.m. It's at 247 Houston. Corpus. The car show will take place at the Hilliard Center in Corpus Christi. Uh again, it starts at 10. The event invites car enthusiasts to display vehicles ranging from classics to modern. The first 50 entries will receive a free car show t-shirt. Uh everybody that registers, uh, it benefits the bikes for kids in Corpus Christi. So go on out there and get that.

Don Armstrong

Hilliard. You know, uh, I believe that was uh that was the name of uh the character that Robin Williams played in Mrs. Dowdfire. Okay, that's that's good to know.

Jeff Dziekan

Mr. Hilliard. Okay. And then we got West Temple Motors and Monthly Cruise In. And this is in where? George would know. It's in Temple, Texas. It's 7070 Stone Hollow Drive. Goes from 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. Uh it's at the Bold Republic Brewing for laid back evening of laid-back uh evening of engines, good vibes, and great beer. Uh all vehicles are welcome. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, if it's got wheels, bring it. Uh George will be out there. I hope George will be out there. He enjoys those things. Whether you're a gearhead or just appreciate good conversation about classic rides, custom bills, your daily driver, this is the spot. There's no entry fee, there's no judging. So just go on out of the way. We don't judge here. And judge out there. We judge out there, that's right, the cars. Then you got the Austin Monthly Lunch Meet. This is at 7525 Burnett Road in Austin. It goes from 1030 a.m. to 2 p.m. This is basically uh well it's at the top-notch hamburgers in Austin, Texas. Next Saturday. Next Saturday. It welcomes all fiat and Italian car enthusiasts, and the activities begin at 10.30.

Don Armstrong

All things Italian.

Jeff Dziekan

All things Italian and uh Yeah, you go out there and get a meatball or something. Uh casual car discussions, community hangout, and classic uh classic drive-in atmosphere. The organizers invite attendees to bring classics. So uh Top Notch is a well-known Austin drive-in, recognized for its retro style and casual setting. Then next Sunday, uh Crazy Train Car Meets. Mike, you'll like this one. It's in Magnolia. It's a 38925 FM 1774. Uh goes from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m., so it's an evening evening cruise.

Don Armstrong

Wasn't that a uh crazy train?

Jeff Dziekan

Wasn't that a rock and roll song? Yeah, that was uh Ozzy Osborne. Yeah, Ozzy. Crazy work. The event encourages respectful behavior and uh request attendees to refrain from bringing outside food order. Don't bring Ozzy then. Yeah, don't bring Ozzy. Uh Kingwood, the last one we got for next Sunday is the Kingwood Family Dentistry. It's a spring car show. It's at 2876 West Town Center in Kingwood, Texas. Uh the Kingwood Family Dentistry will be held that day. The event features uh display of more than a hundred vehicles, ranging from cars over a hundred years old to modern vehicles. And you know what? They're giving away as trophies, they've got a little plaque.

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Woo-hoo!

Jeff Dziekan

I get it.

Don Armstrong

Thinking, well, yeah, they've got all dentals.

Jeff Dziekan

I'll drill down on that next time. Please do.

China Dealer Losses And Price War

FTC Targets Hidden Dealer Add Ons

Don Armstrong

Okay. Did the wheels come off of this extra early? 805. No, I think it came off about six, didn't it? Yeah. All right. Um, I have some stories to tell you about, um, and that would be news stories. Have you heard about the Chinese? Heard about them? You know, they make everything, they make pretty much everything that we buy. Everything. Well, guess what? We really haven't had an influx of Chinese cars yet. They're coming. More than half of China's car dealerships, of which there are a lot, since they are the number one consumer of cars. Did you know that? More than half of China's car dealerships became unprofitable last year amid the market's cutthroat price war going on over there and sliding domestic sales, kind of like here. Some 56% of dealerships booked losses in 2025. Up 42% the year before, the China Automobile Dealers Association reported March 18th. China's ongoing new car price war further undermined retailer financial results as vehicle sales fall in the world's biggest auto market, more so than Houston. Uh intensifying competition forced 82% of dealerships to retail new cars at prices below wholesale. How do you make money doing that? Yeah, below wholesale. I don't know, but I'll tell you what. The Chinese are coming. And have you seen have you seen a Chinese car? They are really nice. And it's quite surprising on one hand. But on the other hand, it's not surprising. I mean, the Chinese can make some real junk, pens, pencils, stuff like that. When it comes to high-end pens and pencils, it's not like I've got one. I used to have one. I lost it. Oh no. Lindsay Automotive Group. Okay, you attorneys out there and automobile dealerships. Lindsay Automotive Group agreed to pay a$3.1 million penalty in what potentially could be more than$75 million in restitution. Wow. Two settle allegations including tacking unadvertised charges onto vehicles it sold and deception about add-ons, such as service contract, according to the Federal Trade Commission. Lindsay Auto misled consumers by advertising false low car prices and adding mandatory fees and other charges during the car buying process, according to Christopher Muffridge, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. This has been a story that I've been telling you about now for about the past three or four weeks. Lindsay Automotive and three people named as individual defendants did not admit or deny any wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement reached with the Maryland Attorney General's office and FTC and FTC, which to get case. This automotive group is going down. Yeah. Because uh there's a new there's a new sheriff in town, and if a car dealership advertises the price, now I'm not talking about taxes. You go to the store, the shirt price is 1099, you know that your taxes are going to be added onto that. So that's been left alone. But anything else, the window tent, or how about that surcharges on your financing that we do? Nay, nay, none of that. And so these guys got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And uh they're not going to be the only ones. So if you're a car dealer, and I know that we have car dealers that listen to this show, uh, you might want to check to make sure that you are all legal and above board. I think the ones that listen to this show are.

Jeff Dziekan

They're all legal and above board. I with Houston Auto Dealers, I would say yes. Absolutely. I mean you started out with the Chinese Auto Dealer Association. I don't is there such a thing? I not that I've heard of yet. So when you're in the dealership too long, they change you, you've been here too long, you gotta go.

Sponsor Break For Car Care

Live Show Invite And Sign Off

Don Armstrong

Well, should I forget should I continue to do that story? Sure. All right. I just want to make sure that I don't get uh carried on here. Uh the settlement involves restitution for customers who bought vehicles between April 1st, 2020 and December 31st, 2025. Lindsay Automotive must pay them the difference between the advertised price and the price they actually paid, or the cost for any add-on products or services. I did not agree to purchase uh or thought would be required. The most recent version of the complaint by the two agencies filed in July alleged Lindsay advertised one price but charged customers more in reality, incorporated rebates into its advertised prices, and falsely called advertised prices contingent on financing through the dealership. More than 88% of its customers in a random sample of deals from April 2020 to March of 2023 paid more than the price Lindsay advertised on car gurus and cars commerce and complaint the complaint said. Um did you want me to not do this? Or uh we're gonna figure out all of that. But anyway, it's a big mess, and I'm sure that uh they are going to finally straighten all that stuff out so you don't get ripped off. All right. Uh we have the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show coming to you from the Loopy Tortilla Tex Mex and Tailpipes and Tacos. It's coming up after a quick break, and we'd love to hear from you anytime. Shoot us an email, the address here below at inwheeltime.com. We'll be right back after this. You own a car you love. Well, why not let Gulf Coast Auto Shield protect it? Houstonian John Gray invites you to his state-of-the-art facility to introduce you to his specialist team of auto enthusiasts. We promise you'll be impressed. Whether you're looking to massage your original paint to a like new appearance, apply a ceramic coating, install a paint protection film, nano ceramic window tint, or new windshield protection called Exoshield, Gulf Coast Auto Shield is where Houston's car people go. Curbed your wheels? Instead of buying new, why not have them repaired? How about a professionally installed radar detector? Gulf Coast Auto Shield does that too. Get a peek inside the shop and look at the services offered by getting online and heading to gcautoshield.com. Better yet, stop by their facility at 11275 South Sam Houston Tollway, just south of the Southwest Freeway, and get a personal tour. Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your place to go for all things exterior. Call them today, 832-930-5655 or gcautoshield.com. Gift giving should be meaningful, and we have an idea. A hand-painted custom illustration of your car from one of the nation's leading artists. You've seen his work in car shows and on display of the heavy hideout. Now you can have an illustration or car poster customized for you, a friend or loved one. Bill Sites is a real car guy that speaks the language and will be happy to guide you through the process. No matter what today, birthday, anniversary, or any day, an autographics custom illustration adds an extra touch of class to any home. Call Bill today, 832-922-0963. That's 832-922-0963. That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show. I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning on Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and our InWheeltime.com website. Podcasts are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iHeartPodcast, Podcast Addict, TuneIn, Pandora, and Amazon Music. Keep listening, and we'll see you soon.